Re’eh: Rav Kook’s Anti-Vegetarian Views

Synopsis: This is the audio version of the 5-page article I wrote and published on rabbischneeweiss.substack.com/ on 8/6/26 titled: Re’eh: Rav Kook’s Anti-Vegetarian Views. This article is my first foray into Rav Kook's stance on vegetarianism, but what motivated me to write it is his revolutionary view of chukim as seeds planted for a future we aren't ready for. https://rabbischneeweiss.substack.com/p/reeh-rav-kooks-anti-vegetarian-views

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Hello, I'm Rabbi Matt Schneewise, and this is the audio version of the five-page article I wrote and published on my Substack at Rabbit Schneewise.substack.com on August 6th, 2026, and the article is titled Re, Ravcook's Anti-Vegetarian Views. And if you hear the pitter patter of rain, that is because I am recording in a car in Iceland and it's pouring rain. Preface. Anti-vegetarian? Don't you mean pro-vegetarian? Nope, I meant what I wrote. Before I read Linivukhe Hadora, Ravkuk's guide for today's Perplexed, I knew virtually nothing about Ravkuk's Hashkafa. Other than his Zionism, one of the few things I'd heard was that he was pro-vegetarianism. Little did I realize how nuanced his view on this matter was. Before we commence with the main body of this article, I'd like to state three disclaimers. Disclaimer number one, this is not intended to be a comprehensive overview of the Torah's stance on vegetarianism. As far as I'm aware, there are three major exegetical views on the permission to eat meat granted by the Torah in Parsh's Noah, Paris 9, 1 through 7. A. That meat was never prohibited in the first place. B that it was initially permitted, then prohibited after Adam's sin, then repermitted after the flood, and C that meat was forbidden from creation and only permitted after the flood. For an overview of these three views with their rationales and sources, see Al-Haturah's study topic article. See also my 2015 article, Ree, Meat is Murder. Disclaimer number two. This isn't even intended to be a comprehensive presentation of Rav Cook's position. Like I said, it's nuanced and I'm not familiar with it. If you're interested, read chapter 10 in its entirety and/or check out Rabbi Sklar's translation with extensive footnotes. And by the way, um the translation is published was published in 2026 by Kodish Press, uh translated by Rabbi Arias Sklar, and I will be using his translations uh in this article with my own emphasis in bold and my own paragraph breaks, which you cannot see because this is audio. Disclaimer number three. In my Rhapsody on Rov Cook, first impressions of a new chapter in my learning, I wrote, quote, I'm going to keep all my Rav Cook-related writing behind a paywall as a default. End quote. I explained, quote, the main reason is that I need to be able to explore this new world freely, following my mind wherever it goes without feeling pressure to be authoritative. I need to be able to think out loud as someone who knows nothing about Ruf Cook, but who conducts his investigations in writing. If every post I write is met with objections, that's not what Roof Cook holds. You need to learn such and such before you can write about such and such. How dare you misappropriate concept such and such into your worldview when that's clearly not what Roof Cook would have said, then I know I'll just clam up and lose the ability to think freely in public. End quote from myself. I'm tentatively making an exception here because I really wanted to write about this, and I'm traveling, so I don't have time to write a paywalled and non-paywalled article article. We'll see what happens. Roofkuk's theory of Hukim. When I ask my high school students what the difference is between Hukim and Mishpatim, they usually say, Mishpatim have reasons and Hukim don't. This view is not held by most, if any, of the Rishonim. A more accurate distinction is Mishpatim have reasons that are obvious, whereas Hukim have reasons that are not obvious. The Rambam in the Morhanavukim 326 maintains that this view of Hukim is unanimous. Quote, all of us, the masses as well as the elite individuals, maintain that there is a reason for every mitzvah, although there are mitzvahs the reason of which is unknown to us, and in which the ways of divine wisdom are not known. This view is distinctly expressed in Scripture, as it is stated, Chukim and Mishpatim of Justice, that's Divarim 4.8, and the Mishpatim of Hashem are true and righteous altogether. That's Tahilim 1910. End quote from the Ramam. My friend Rabbi Joshua Marouf wrote an excellent article in which he asks a further question on this distinction. Quote, on the surface, it is difficult to understand why this method of classification is justified. Does it make sense to categorize commandments simply based on whether we can provide a logical explanation for them or not? Isn't there a more meaningful criterion to use for grouping the mitzvot? End quote. I encourage you to read Rabbi Maruf's answer there, which is consistent with Ravkuk's view below. And I hyperlink to that in the article. In the middle of our chapter, Ravkuk provides a thought-provoking answer to this question. Quote, the category of Hukim is defined as commandments whose relevance in the present cannot be found, and are rather a sowing of the seeds and a preparation for the future. Only when that fortunate time comes, only then will this great purpose that this wondrous nation took on be felt. A preparation for guidance so lofty as this. When our judges and counselors look into the Torah and find our nation ready to activate these sprouts, then light will go out to the entire nation. The nation that is elevated for that wondrous leadership, in the innate feeling of compassion, of shame, of acts of kindness, which will manifest in their fullest sense, that will surely be for the light of nations. Isaiah 42 6 and 49 6. When all the nations will hear about these chukim, they will say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. Dvarim 4.6. End quote from Rufkuk. The seed analogy is beautiful. Imagine a person who had only ever seen fruit trees, but had no knowledge of how they came to be. Imagine you showed them a handful of seeds and told them they yielded just as much value as the trees. They wouldn't believe you. How could something that appears so useless possibly bear fruit? But plant those seeds, and the truth will be evident in its proper time. According to Rifkuk, the same is true of Hukim. The wise can appreciate the wisdom and understanding embedded in these chukim, but the masses, Jews and non-Jews alike, will only be able to appreciate their utility in the future at the right time. Rufkuk's case for vegetarianism. Rufkuk states his essential view early on in the chapter. Quote, let us consider the ethical yearning of not killing any living thing for the needs of man. It is impossible to deny what is sensed by any feeling heart, that there is a general ethical deficiency in how the human species fails to uphold the good and lofty feeling that it should not take the life of any living thing for its own needs. And it is absolutely impossible that the good God would decree a permanent law in a very good creation dictating that the human species will not be able to sustain itself unless it clouds its ethical feelings by spilling blood, even the blood of animals. End quote from Rufkuk. Ultimately, God's wish is to, quote, connect humanity with all other living things, end quote, causing man to, quote, yearn for the highest ethical nobility and demand of himself his obligation toward all creation, his fellows in creation and in life. End quote. What, according to Rufkuk, was the intended state of man in relation to animals at the time of creation? Quote, there is no doubt to any intelligent person that when the Torah says to Adam, You shall have dominion over the fish of the sea and the birds of the heaven and all the animals that crawl upon the earth, Genesis 128, it does not mean the domination of a cruel dictator who treats his people harshly only in order to bring about his own personal desires. Heaven forbid that such a disgusting law of enslavement should be of the ways of the good God, of whom it is said, the world is built with kindness, Psalms 89 3. And we see that all his ways are filled with justice and compassion. The Torah itself surely expresses this clearly from the fact that Adam was not allowed to have meat as food. If that is true, what kind of domination was he to have over all the animals and insects, if not dominion over the well-being of those under domination, to develop them, to improve their situation, to be involved in their physical and spiritual advancement? End quote. Note the strength of Ravkuk's stance. It's not that vegetarian it's not that vegetarianism would be preferable, but that a permanent license to kill for food would be incompatible with God's goodness. As we shall soon see, Ravkuk holds by the third of the three views cited above, that meat was forbidden from the creation and only permitted after the flood, and its permission was a concession to human nature. Ravkuk's warning against premature vegetarianism. Up until this point, Ravkuk's view might be considered unremarkable. But here's where things get interesting. Quote, however, after the generation of the flood, when meat was allowed for food, this concession was certainly not meant to remain forever. For how can there be an ethical situation that changes and is nullified after it had already been the practice originally? We are to add to holiness, not diminish it. Rather, the divine intellect saw that man had fallen from his ethical state, and until the time comes when man will stir himself awake and arrive at the true ethical recognition, he should not be burdened with moral obligations that do not accord with his level. In other words, this was not merely a concession to on the particular issue of eating meat. Instead, it marked a concession in the method used by the Torah to promote the ethical development of mankind. Formerly, the Torah had legislated the ethical ideal. After the flood, the Torah employed the approach of Khanokh Lanaar Alpi Darko, Gam kiyaskin loyasur mimena, train the youth in accordance with his way, and even when he grows old, he will not deviate from it. Mishlay 22.6. In my shir, how the seemingly outdated elements of Torah are evidence of its perfection, I refer to this distinction using Rabbi Chaim Angel's terminology, static versus evolutionary morality. Why was such an approach necessary? Because the alternative would have been disastrous. As Roofklook writes, quote, there is no doubt that if the prohibition against killing animals would be practiced now, when man's ethical state has not yet been rectified, it would cause tremendous damage. When the animalistic desire to eat meat would intensify, it would not make a distinction between human and animal, since it would be the same prohibition either way. Cannibalism would then become a very constant sight. And sometimes there also needs to be a concession of some impressionable aspect of the ways of morality in order to prepare man for an even higher level, because if we were to put first what should really come later, then all would be lost. End quote. Herein lies the nuance alluded to at the beginning of this article. Rafcook really does hold that the cruel exploitation of animals for our own needs is akin to, albeit not absolutely equal to, the oppression of our fellow human beings. Both run contrary to the will of the Creator insofar as they cause harm and suffering to his creatures. However, the blurring of the distinction between human and animal will lead to even greater harm. If killing an animal and killing a human fall under a single prohibition, then whoever violates it for a stake has already crossed the only line there is, and human flesh no longer stands in a category of its own. The solution is not to implement the ethical ideal at the present time. Rather, the antidote to this moral equivalency and its attendant moral degradation is to draw a sharp distinction between how we treat animals and how we treat our fellow human beings. Quote To illustrate, since the ethical state of man continues to waver, his animalistic love of self always prone to overcome him, even to the point that all the rules of ethics and morality would be a joke to him, it makes sense that he would need to keep a social distance between himself and the lowly animals. This is in order that he should not see himself as one of them, for then they would make an impression upon him with their animalistic ways to bring down his spirit to the dark valley of the wild animals. He would then he would be prone to leaving aside his human superiority and to be counted among the wild beasts. Were it not so that the equivalent moral obligation was set for all, the same for the rest of the animals as for other human beings, it would leave an impression of a community and partnership between man and all other living things. Even if this would not be harmful for the rest of for the best of humanity, the ethical level of the common people would be greatly lowered. The temptation is greater to descend into the ways of the animals in order to be exempt from the many ethical calculations and to enjoy the many crass pleasures of the moment. End quote. Rafcook concludes his thesis by rounding out and reiterating the print the picture of mankind's proper development. Quote, thus it is unfathomable how good for the world the impact of severing the relationship between humans and all other things has been. All of this could only happen by way of an exemption that freed man from many ethical obligations toward animals, and he was permitted to satisfy his desires even through killing them, so that he would recognize on a very deep level his superiority over them, and thus his soul would be elevated toward the highest ethical yearnings. In the end, absolute ethical truth, which is truly the knowledge of God, will win out, at which point man will no longer need these concessions. If ethical obligations were overly practiced between man and the animals, then in a time lacking in ethical perfection, it would have caused a great amount of evil to humanity. Therefore, it was a necessary decision made by the divine intellect who discerns the heart, the mind and the heart, that's Jeremiah 11, 20 and 2012, to sever the connecting thread between man and beast, so that the con so that the concentration, let me start that sentence again. Therefore, it was there was a necessary decision made by the divine intellect who discerns the mind and heart to sever the connecting thread between man and beast, so that the concentration of man's ethical focus could be specifically for his own betterment, and then man will successfully arrive at his good fortune in the end of days. And when humanity arrives at that glorious and free age, then man will have the proper understanding of his relationship to the animal kingdom from the standpoint of pure morality. Man will no longer need any exigent concessions and exemptions, for the Torah only speaks against the evil inclination, uh only in order to walk in the way of absolute goodness. End quote. He then offers explanations of many animal-related mitzvos in light of this theory Shita, ritual slaughter, kisui hadam, covering the blood of slaughtered beasts and fowl, khila, prohibited fat, kilaim, prohibited mixtures, and more. Support for Rov Cook's warning. Actually, you know what? I think I want to add a section. Okay. In sum, although God cares about the welfare of all creatures, he prioritized the ethical development of human beings. This necessitated differentiating between man and animal. Without this sharp distinction, man would descend to the level of the wild beasts. Only when this phase of ethical development is well established will we rise to the universal ethics of the creator who is good to all and whose mercies are upon all his works. Support for Rovcook's warning. PETA. Consider Ingrid Newkirk, born in 1949, animal rights activist and co-founder of PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. She and her organization illustrate the very mechanism Revcook identified, what happens to moral intuition when the distinction between man and animal is flattened before mankind is ready. Here are just a few of the many examples. Neukirk's most famous quotation is, quote, There's no rational basis for saying that a human being has special rights. A rat is a pig, is a dog, is a boy. They're all animals. End quote. The obligation towards animals underlying this claim is one Rovcook affirms as part of God's ultimate plan, but the flattening of the distinction between human and animal is precisely what he warns will fuel moral deterioration if implemented prematurely. PETA's It's Still Going On campaign featured ads compare, quote, comparing widely publicized murder cannibalization cases to the deaths of animals in slaughterhouses, end quote. Newkirk herself has drafted an elaborate will specifying what should be done with her body after her death. She wants her skin turned into wallets, her feet into umbrella stands, her flesh carved out, fried up with onions and incorporated into a human barbecue, and her various other body parts processed in other ways and sent to specific public figures. While these attention-grabbing stunts may not be tantamount to a full-throated advocacy of cannibalism, they certainly veer in that direction. One of PETA's most controversial campaigns was its 2003 Holocaust on your plate exhibition, which, quote, consisted of eight 60 square foot panels, each with a juxtaposition of images of the Holocaust with images of factory farming. Photographs of concentration camp inmates in wooden bunks were shown next to photographs of battery chickens and piled bones of Holocaust victims next to a big pile to a pile of pig carcasses. Captions alleged that, like the Jews murdered in concentration camps, animals are terrorized when they are housed in huge filthy warehouses and rounded up for shipment to slaughter. The leather sofa and handbag are the moral equivalent of the lampshades made from the skins of people killed in the death camps. End quote. Newkirk's misguided moral intuitions are evident in a letter she wrote in 2003 to Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat protesting the use of a donkey as a suicide bomber, not because this was an act of terrorism intended to murder innocent human beings, but because she didn't want any more donkeys to die. Parenthetically, by the way, this is why I titled this Rov Cook's Anti-Vegetarian Views rather than anti-vegetarianism. He is staunchly pro-vegetarian, but warns against the kinds of vegetarians who promote Oh, sorry, hold on. Yeah, I think I read that right. He is staunchly pro-vegetarian, but warns against the kinds of vegetarians who promote or or are produced by a vegetarianism improperly implemented. Vegetarians like Newkirk and her organization. PETA and its co-founder may seem like an extreme example, but such extremism is exactly what Rufkluk warned about, uh warned would follow from the erasure of the distinction between man and animal before mankind is ready for it. This leads to a final question. Concluding thoughts. If not now, when? At what point should mankind transition back into vegetarianism? Rufkluk notes that the criterion is embedded within the Torah's presentation of the permission to eat meat, quote. But when the Torah gave permission to eat meat, it elaborated with a narrative element, quote, when your soul desires to eat meat, end quote, from Deuteronomy 12 20, creating a limitation, as if to say, only so long as your natural ethical state does not abhor the eating of living things like you abhor the eating of human meat. Indeed, this is why the Torah did not have to explicitly prohibit cannibalism, for man had already acquired the correct natural idea regarding this, and the Torah does not need to prohibit it, just as it does not need to specify good and bad character traits, which are innate and familiar. But when the time comes of an ethical state of abhorrence for meat because of a natural repulsion to it, there will be no desire for your soul to eat meat, and you shall not eat it. Veloz Ochal. End quote. There are many vegetarians and even entire cultures who feel such an abhorrence for meat. But should these people be proactive in persuading their fellow human beings to cultivate similar sentiments, or are these feelings supposed to develop organically? Does Rovkuk envision this change occurring throughout the species, or should it be spearheaded by the Jews under the auspices of Torah? Should we become vegetarians if we are swayed by Rovkuk's arguments? I'm sure Rovkuk addresses these and other questions in his other writings on this topic. Those who are interested should start with the many citations compiled by Rabbi Sklar in his notes to this chapter. As stated at the outset, my intention in this article was not to provide a comprehensive treatment of this topic or Rufkuk's position. My main goal was to showcase a fascinating example of the Torah's approach to shaping mankind's values through the system of Chukim. May we merit to see the sprouting of these life giving seeds.